Comments on: Oral Contraceptives = Abortion?

By: diane

diane — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:17:37 +0000

I had a sex several minutes ago and then i took the first initial dose of diane 35. Can it prevent from the pregnancy as it will work as poin 3 (thinning and shriveling the lining of the uterus to the point that it is unable or less able to facilitate the implantation of the newly fertilized egg).
Should i take another pill (morning after pill) or should it be enough to prevent from pregnancy?
Really need a help.

By: dude

dude — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:54:10 +0000

i am very worried right now, my gf haven’t had her menstruation for about 2weeks now. and she is using diane 35. does diane35 work like an abortion pill?

By: Me

Me — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:39:40 +0000

Cristina, how do you know this for sure?

“If there is breakthrough ovulation, the corpus leuteum pours out more than enough hormones to offset the Pill, and the uterine lining grows rich and hospitable, ready to nurture new life just as it was meant to.”

Please post where you got you data.

By: Serena

Serena — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:41:39 +0000

Sorry, but I have to argue a bit. Birth control cannot cause an abortion. The morning after pill cannot, either.
With birth control, a fertilized egg can still attach, and thus cause a pregnancy. (If ovulation occurs.) Not common, but if the dose isn’t right or if there are other issues (taking an oral antibiotic at the same time, etc) it is possible. Birth control does NOT force the implanted egg to shed, however. It can’t. Same with the morning after pill-that tries to keep the egg from attaching, which is why it has to be taken as soon as possible. If you wait too long, the egg has attached, the morning after pill is useless.
On something the article you read talks about–keeping the fertilized egg from attaching? I don’t see how that could be considered abortion, because women’s bodies naturally do that sometimes anyways. Getting pregnant doesn’t just require a fertilized egg, it has to attach to–ever hear of a tubal pregnancy? That’s where the egg attaches in the wrong spot. Not too uncommon for it to not attach at all.
I disagree with abortion, I think that forcing out a fertilized & implanted egg is wrong. But not letting it attach?

(I work in a pharmacy, and this is a discussion we’ve had many times, as well as in my schooling.)

By: Bev

Bev — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:41:18 +0000

I guess your opinion on this would depend on where you get your facts and how reliable they are. Also I think that if you have used the pill then your opinion will be different also.

It seems that women are always expected to make these choices and then to feel guilty about making them. Surely it is better to protect yourself against unwanted pregnancy than to create lots of unwanted babies that may (in some cases) be treated as such?
If a fertilised egg does not implant then I refuse to see the use of the pill as basically an abortian, that egg is not a baby it is a cluster of cells that was potentially a baby. It is not the same thing as going to a clinic and knowingly aborting a baby.
I think you have an interesting view and I respect it but I disagree with many of your points.

By: Alison

Alison — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:56:48 +0000

Christina, have you got any sources for your claims?

What you say is interesting, but contradictory. If low-dose pills result in ovulation being stopped less often, and the lining of the uterus is enriched when breakthrough ovulation occurs, how come the effectiveness rate isn’t really bad?

By: Christopher J Combrink

Christopher J Combrink — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:59:39 +0000

Okay, this’ rich coming from a guy..but..

The pill is the way forward. I have heard of many many miss-haps with routes like the injection.

Honestly, even though the pill has a wide range of side-effects (some more than others).. it’s still one of the most reliable ways. Couple them with a back up contraceptive (which we should all use in any event), a condom & you’ll rest easy at night.

@eastcoast that’s a really selfish thing to say. The topic of abortion is perhaps left for another post

By: eastcoastlife

eastcoastlife — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:50:34 +0000

Hope no lady needs to go for abortion. I’m against it.

Hi Dizzy Dee, how are you doing? Long time no see.

By: Devilicious

Devilicious — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:08:04 +0000

LOL this is stupid, next thing someone is going to say is that having your period and releasing the egg is abortion.. I mean really, get a life people.

By: Christina

Christina — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:25:51 +0000

Actually, Alcorn — and just about everybody else, it seems — is using old, recently-debunked data.

Yes, the original and continued proponents of The Pill believed it to have a third “back-up” abortifacient effect, because of the thinning of the uterine lining. But this thinning takes place only if there is no breakthrough ovulation.

If there is breakthrough ovulation, the corpus leuteum pours out more than enough hormones to offset the Pill, and the uterine lining grows rich and hospitable, ready to nurture new life just as it was meant to.

For a parallel, imagine spraying bug spray in a man’s face. If you do it on a calm day, he’ll get a lung full of poison. But on a windy day, the force of the wind is more than enough to overcome the force of the aerosol. The bug spray will dissipate harmlessly.

This is good news! But it’s not getting widespread attention. Thousands of newly conceived embryos are not being casually or inadvertently aborted.

We really need to stop beating this dead horse and address ourselves to the actual carnage that is taking place.